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Which came first: the depression or the muffintop?
If you've ever been depressed, or out of shape, or more likely...both at the same time, you know hard it is to battle your way back to good health.
I know this struggle all too well.
And make no mistake about it, this is biological warfare, and the enemy knows all my weaknesses.
The enemy, of course, is me.
I don't know what came first: the depression or the muffintop. Am I depressed because I am so flabby and tired all the time, or am I so flabby and tired all the time because I'm depressed?
It's a classic Catch-22 for sure.
Seems like the older I get, the harder it is to step off the Unhealthy-Choices-Merry-Go-Round. And there are paradoxes everywhere I turn.
1.) I know I'd have more motivation to do something productive if I got off my ass and exercised, but I'm not motivated enough to get off my ass and exercise in the first place.
2.) I bought a bottle of St. John's Wort because I heard it is good for brain function and "mood boosting," but I can't remember to take it every day.
3.) I know I'd feel better if I ate healthier foods, but I crave such unhealthy things like sugar, fat, and alcohol. I eat crap, then (surprise!) I feel like crap, so I seek out crappy comforting foods. Cue the shame spiral.
4.) It is a known fact that the brain requires a certain amount of water each day to function. Yet I reach for another cup of coffee or a soda when I feel sluggish. And then later in the day I rejoice when I realize it's a quarter to wine o'clock.
5.) Alcohol is categorized as a depressant, but every time I try to quit drinking I just feel more depressed.
Does any of this ring a bell? God, I hope so, because I would hate to feel like I'm alone in this.
I've long suspected that if I could just make one small change, the rest of the keys to better health would slowly start to line up like a row of dominoes, eagerly awaiting a chain reaction.
But where to begin? Which small healthy change should I make first?
Luckily for me, I didn't have to deliberate this for long. The Christian season of Lent began a few weeks ago and I chose to give up my favorite vice: WINE.
Ain't going to lie...it's been brutal so far. And the fact that my depression has worsened instead of improved leads me to believe that my daily wine habit isn't as harmless as I thought it was.
Now the real question is: will 40 days of abstaining from wine be enough to set me on a healthier course or is a more permanent change in my future?
Only time will tell.
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Report Wed Mar 21, 2012 - 8:30 amI love you and you are not alone. I would start with the very easiest easy, easy change, like just fill up a bottle of water every day and drink that. Giving up wine cold turkey is too big! Baby steps. Love yourself. You are SO special.Reply -
Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 11:00 pmSounds like someone needs a Mom Prom to cheer them up, and to get on the healthy choices path again. I also got a calorie counter, it was not great at the start, but choices became easier when i saw how bad the bad choices were. But hey, you look like ammight fine woman in your profile pic.Reply -
5 replies, Last reply by Micayla on Tue Mar 20, 2012 at 1:58 am
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Report Thu Mar 15, 2012 - 1:09 amMy darling dear. You are so depleted in progesterone it's not even funny. What are the symptoms? Only everything you just described. Now go find your self a good female ob/gyn who prescribed BIO hormones (the Suzanne Summers Oprah kind) and watch yourself get back into your regular scheduled programmed crazy ass self, with a smile on your face and a smaller waist line. Well what are you waiting for? Do it! Kisses! -Someone who shares because she cares. And has been there;)Reply -
3 replies, Last reply by Susie on Mon Mar 19, 2012 at 10:22 pm
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Report Mon Mar 19, 2012 - 8:33 pmYou are on the right track when you say "one small healthy change" as that's the most successful path. And quitting wine altogether may actually qualify as a big change, which is why it's hard. It takes about 30 days to get a new habit and about 100 for it to be set, so you will get there! I don't know how big your block is, but when you're about to grab that soda or get down on yourself, walk around the block. That's it. You will feel a difference for sure.Reply -
Report Mon Mar 19, 2012 - 1:59 amYeah, vaguely rings a bell. As if it wasn't our chat that inspired this post, lol. So glad you did this. I'm inspired to get a grip. Not sure how far I can go, because as you say, only time will tell. Thanks for being such a wonderful friend.Reply -
Report Sun Mar 18, 2012 - 10:42 pmA day without wine is a day without sunshine-that's my philosophy. I would have a hard time giving it up....good for you. Lots of calories gone right there. I have a friend who buys boxed wine and said she had to switch stores for a while b/c the people at her local store would think she was an alcoholic LOL. Good luck with your lifestyle changes!Reply -
Report Sun Mar 18, 2012 - 5:23 amYou're totally not alone. You should try to cut back on the caffeine though. Sounds.CRAZY, I know, but. A few weeks ago I wound up having a fun echocardiogram (hello, do you not have boobs bitch, stop trying to shove that wand into my titties!) and then a nice chat with a cardiologist. At 32 yrs old. WTF doesn't begin to cover it, but when you present with chest pains and shortness of breath .... well. I was having a fun trip into anxiety attack land without knowing it! The cardio told me to kill my caffeine though. I am sure I looked pretty much like your picture of Oprah. ONLY parent of 4 kids, full time student, somebody's girlfriend, and keeper of the house, with a psycho ex that I have to keep us all safe from and you want me to stop drinking WHUT? Hellllllll no. But I did, and I feel amazing. I raked my flower beds and under the porch today and hauled 9 boxes of leaves out of the yard. 3 weeks after MAJOR surgery. And then I took my kids to the park.Reply -
2 replies, Last reply by Adrienne on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 5:17 pm
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Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 9:00 amThis is a really good post and one I think almost everyone can relate to at some time. My husband doesn't understand me wanting to get up early and work out or do yoga most days but that's how I truly keep depression at bay. Yoga or just a short work out dvd and I feel clear headed and totally relaxed after, it's also my time when no one can bother me or ask me to do anything - haha! It's my alone, quiet time to just focus on myself and not worry or think about anything. Do go easy on yourself. I think you giving up wine for lent may lead to more insight and positive changes. Everyone has to find their own way.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm
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Report Thu Mar 15, 2012 - 2:23 amWell, you are not alone. And some big pluses for you are that you are able to complete writing projects, you were able to complete a home project (complete with dirty caulk removal), and you were able to give up wine. Your first place to start is a check-up before you do any more berating of yourself for being in a rut. Get that thyroid checked out. Now. EllenReply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sun Mar 18, 2012 at 3:36 pm
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Report Thu Mar 15, 2012 - 9:09 amYou are so dead on!!! I feel like this all the time! Btw, I just finished my third glass of wine tonight....should I have another??? Oh, please let spring break get over quickly!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:24 pm
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Report Fri Mar 16, 2012 - 8:25 amI'm with you sista. Gave up all booze for Lent. It was my 8 yr old daughter's idea, WTF was I supposed to say, "no honey, mommy needs to drink"?! Sadly I was tempted to but instead only made the exception that I could celebrate (with lots of booze) at my cousin's wedding which is the weekend after next. Who the heck gets married during Lent anyway? Sadly I am at my heaviest and muffin topiest right now. I have been trying to reverse this horrid trend since after Thanksgiving but feel like a complete failure as I've not seen much in the way of results. I have no idea how people exercise every day. Some weeks (the minority) are great and I get in 4 to 5 days of exercise and other weeks totally suck and I'm lucky to get in 1 day the whole week, and I'm binging on crap. It's so depressing and I hate feeling so fat and out of shape. My baby is 5 too, so I can't blame her. Hell, I was at my skinniest ever in the year after I had her. Breast feeding had always been like a magical weight loss fairy for me.... having another baby right now just to have the magical weight loss from breast feeding just is not happening though, LOL!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:23 pm
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Report Thu Mar 15, 2012 - 10:13 pmI'm experiencing similar things., and I'm with you, girl. Go get a check-up to start...if not for you, then for us - your fan base!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:22 pm
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Report Fri Mar 16, 2012 - 7:12 pmAMEN! I can relate in particular to sugar, and already abandoned my Lent sugar free plan (Sorry Jesus....) so I feel like a looser in the biggest way, but when my sugar whore self gets a lick or granulated heaven...do not care so much. AIGH. Have you read Made to Crave by Lysa Terkhurst? Fabulous, but I think I need to keep re reading it, like all good it is easily forgotten. For the record...you do not look flabby to me. You saw my fat fanny post!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:20 pm
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Report Fri Mar 16, 2012 - 10:08 pmI have the exact same problems. I even bought the St. John's wort about 2 weeks back, and how many times do you think I've remembered to take it? Twice. Not at all helpful. That first step is always the hardest, and I wish I could just do it already. I don't have a muffin top, I have a whole loaf. Much love to you, Iris. xoxoReply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:15 pm
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Report Fri Mar 16, 2012 - 11:09 pmSweet, sweet girl. If I was a total loser and didn't love you so much, I'd steal this and slap my name at the bottom of it. #1 and #3 hit a homerun for me. The others are chasing it around the field or diamond or whatever that baseball grassy place is. You're not alone. Not by a longshot. If it helps you any...I won't NOT wear my favorite skirt that is kinda too snug since I won't get off my ass and lose 5 lbs to make it fit better. Instead, I just unzip it halfway. That way, I don't feel guilty when I have that 3rd cup of coffee or that friggin donut. Cause my skirt ain't tight anymore. What a jackass.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm
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Report Sat Mar 17, 2012 - 12:28 amI think this post resonates with a lot of women. It does for me. But I wanted to gives you a heads up if you didn't already know- St. John's Wort can interfere with birth control pills. I would try it, but I'd be even more depressed if I got pregnant. I'll take the muffin top over the watermelon any day.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 5:26 pmWe. Are. The. Same. Person. I. Swear. :-) 'Cept you have WAY more willpower than me to give up the alcohol for 40 days!Reply -
3 replies, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Sat Mar 17, 2012 at 7:10 pm
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Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 2:27 amOh honey....I swear we really are spiritually connected. Hand to God I was just finishing up cleaning out my drawers and 2 rubbermaid containers of clothes in size 10 because I know I am probably not going to see that size again anytime soon. My sister and I have been whining regularly about how we cannot get the weight off. So listen sweety, maybe this will put the fear of God into you. If you don't do it now, it ain't commin off once menopause hits. Also chronic pain is a constant reminder of my need to exercise and take my vitamins. Please don't wait for that...... You know what you need to do? You need to give yourself permission to just enjoy life a little bit more. Really I know it sounds cliche, but when I don't sew every other day or so I start feeling fidgety or blue. What gives you the most joy? Is it writing? Is it watching a lifetime movie while knitting? Is it just playing a game with the kids instead of jumping up to get the dishes done? Geez that sounded preachy, didn't mean for it too. PS DH laughed and said you were quite witty after yesterday's goo gone post. And let's face it after watching stupid Ben pick awful Courtney, I am feeling depressed today too! DH said he is going to dump them both and want Kasey B back. Hahaha....(of course this was after much moaning and groaning about "having" to watch it). Hello we have 4 count em 4 working TV's in our house with Direct TV on each!Reply -
3 replies, Last reply by Tracey on Thu Mar 15, 2012 at 4:09 am
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 5:19 pmOMG, this was me, for SO many years. I swear I wrote blog post upon blog post saying the same sort of stuff. Two years ago I decided I needed to invest actual dollars in making a change happen, because despite *knowing* what I had to do, I was full of all these bullshit excuses! I figured the only thing that would make me take action was spending money on it. I signed up for a particular '12 week body transformation' online programme, which I chose because the trainer (who I had seen on one of those dreaded weight loss reality shows on TV) covered not only food and exercise, but also 'mindset'..and I knew my issues were all in my head. Best $199 I EVER spent. (Best spontaneous, "wtf, I don't care what my husband says" $199 I ever spent! - I didn't even tell him at first, but I didn't get past a couple of weeks of preseason (before the program proper began) where he figured that I was doing something different. (Indeed, I had already lost a couple of kilos!) Overall I changed my body (lost around 15kg - about 11kg to the official end, then the rest afterwards - now happily in the middle of healthy weight range/BMI), upped the exercise to pretty much daily (consistency!) and got the tools to deal with all the excuses. I was a 'must have wine' every night person - now I'm lucky to have a wine or a beer once a week. Coffee is my last vice... About a year later, I've kept it off... I know I'll always have the sweet tooth and the tendency to be an emotional eater, but this time I know exactly how to pull myself back on track. Every time I start down the emotional slope, I remind myself how frigging happy I am when I look in the mirror, get compliments, and generally feel better about myself. I'm turning 50 this year, and I'm in better shape (apart from the wrinkles!) and fitter than I was in my 20s pre-kids.) Gah, there's nothing worse than a reformed 'a-holic' is there? I can't help the evangelist act when someone asks me 'how did you lose weight?". Should get a bloody commission.. (OK, so you didn't actually ask, but your post rang so true, I'm taken back to the depression I was feeling. Will happily pass on the details to anyone who wants to know.. it's Aust based, but as it's online people all over the world are doing it. Loads of success stories, including quite a few local friends and acquaintances. [Sorry, comment so long I should have written a separate post! - which I have done before, I just can't remember my log in! (Sadly it wasn't *that* sort of mind transformation!)]Reply -
3 replies, Last reply by Tracey on Wed Mar 14, 2012 at 7:19 am
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Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 6:39 amYour comments re. depression and how you feel feel very familiar to me. It is an issue I have been dealing with for a long time. I do understand. I know I would feel better if I started to exercise a little but I don't feel well enough to exercise. I will feel better if I go out and meet up with a friend but then it is too much effort and they probably don't want to hear about my issues anyways. It is a vicious cycle. I suppose that you have a healthcare professional that is helping you with medication. If not, then think about it. It has made a major difference for me. Hoping your Lenten Season becomes a joyful season.Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 6:16 amI wish I could express how much I can relate to this. I exercised with my husband for six weeks and tried very hard to watch what I was eating. I got ZERO results. Cue downward spiral of shame. Now I'm so mentally drained from all the energy it took to battle all the failure deamons that I can't get back to the groove. I exercise and then I eat crap so I can self destruct, fail and shame myself. I'm a self destructing perfectionist, how awesome is that?! When I was exercising, I didn't mind it too much, it really wasn't that bad. But the mentally energy to fight the self destruction has broken me. I'm starting to suffer physical symptoms now - headaches and back spasms. Mighty convenient... Yet, I haul myself into therapy and continue to fight through it. I forget everything she tells me, but hopefully, eventually something will get through this thick skull of mine!Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 5:16 amThe older I get the less things bother me so at least getting old is good for something. Depression is nothing to shake a stick at having been there and back. If you let your healthy fresh fruits sit on the counter so long they ferment does that mean you can't eat them 'cause you gave up alcohol or does it mean you just get a bonus?Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 4:19 amI so appreciate this very honest post. Add in the hormonal changes women go through and the recipe for depression is all there. I like the idea of trying to do one thing at a time. Otherwise you're doomed to fail and worse feel really bad about yourself. The one thing I do that seems to curb the depression is exercise. I can't say after four years that I wake up loving it but oddly I do feel addicted to it. I rarely miss a day. My body feels better too despite the fact that at my age (50) it's all about maintaining, not improving. But as a friend told me, we exercise now for our sanity, not for our vanity. The other thing I take is 5HTP, a mood stabilizer. Could be the placebo effect but it feels like it's working. You are not alone in any way and I'm rooting for you.Reply -
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 3:27 am
Damn Iris. I could write a book about alcohol and depression, but won't. Read through the comments, (all good stories, advice, etc.). Had some serious problems of my own and got through them. That's all - just got through them. I'm going to agree with Allie's grandma - do something for yourself (she sews, I play with art stuff), that brings you joy. Quit beating yourself up, tell that nasty bitch voice(s) in your beautiful head to just STFU! Love and Blessing of the Heart from Mississippi.Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 12:07 amIris, I could have written this post a few years ago. You are not alone. I quit drinking Labor Day weekend 2009. It was the beginning of my path to wellness. I was so depressed I'd drink...when I was happy I'd drink. I'm not talking a couple of glasses, I mean DRINK! My choice was also wine. First it was a couple glasses, then a bottle then 2. On weekends I'd start in the early afternoon (like 12:01pm) and go into the night, unless it was Sunday and then I'd have mimosas, starting with breakfast. I finally hit bottom when I realized I'd had this conversation with my son the night before and didn't remember a single part of it. This was prior to him leaving for Iraq. I realized that I was drinking what's left of my life away. I couldn't be present if I wasn't aware. I stopped right then and there, it helped that I had a horrible hangover. Then a few days goes by, I feel better, I have a bad day at work and the first thing I think about is going by the store on the way home and getting a bottle. "I'll just have a couple of glasses" I tell myself. I pulled into the parking lot and couldn't get out of the car. I thanked God for giving me the strength and I drove home. That was the hardest day. Until last year when my mom suddenly died. I wanted to hide in a bottle so bad, but there was so much to do and I had to be sober to get through it all. I wanted to remember her service. And it was incredible. We scattered her ashes off the California coastline. It was a beautiful day. There were dolphins swimming next to the boat. We released butterflies. If I'd have been drunk I wouldn't remember that day so vividly and be able to honor her. Wow, sorry, I went a little off track there. Let's get back to you. You have taken the first step...and that is what it is a baby step. You have a way to go, but you can do this. Once you kick it and it's completely out of your system, you will be able to think clearly and realize how good you feel and it will push you to the next thing. I am now over 2 years sober. I started working out and doing Weight Watchers February 1st. My goal is to look and feel fabulous by August. My son came back from Iraq (praise God) and is getting married. My other son called last week and they are expecting my first grandchild. The future is bright and full of possibilities. Honestly You CAN do this. It's hard, it takes work, but we are women and we can do anything when we set our mind to it. If you need help, just ask, I will be here. Prayers and peace. CindyReply -
3 replies, Last reply by Cath on Wed Mar 14, 2012 at 3:08 am
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Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 2:33 am
A. I like to refer my muffin top as a baker's dozen. B. I started playing WWF to help my brain power, but all it's really done is make me hate my job even more for interfering with WWF.Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 2:27 amNumber 1. really hit home for me. In the last three months of 2010 my aunt, mother, and uncle died in the span of three months. (My Dad was already dead) and my sister's liver disease (non-alcoholic) got so bad in the last 6 months her doctor actually said, "I didn't think you were going to make it" after she rebounded and went to her next appt. AND my best friend moved out of state. I have been in a depression since. There have been days when I came home from dropping off the kids at school and went back to bed until I had to pick them up. My home has been neglected terribly as any energy went to my kids. My sister (who btw is also going through major financial crisis, as well as health crisis and has 2 teenagers) asked me as nice as she could, "What do you have to be depressed about?" I get where she is coming from; my husband is great, my kids are healthy, and while we are no way rolling in it or looking at new cars, we are doing good enough that I don't have to work. I think that is where your bathroom renovating comes in. We have lived in this house for 6 years and last weekend I cleaned out most of the garage. It was an awesome feeling to do something constructive and see immediate results. It really made a difference for me mentally. I swear if I could just eat healthier and exercise... I think my problem is instant gratification. Eating crap and NOT exercising is instant, but eating healthy and exercising take a bit for results and I'm like Veruca Salt in that regard.Reply -
Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 9:47 pmI too have a barely used bottle of St Johns Wort on the bathroom shelf. I'm right where you are....depressed, the muffin top to take on all muffin tops AND a recently prescribed mess o' steroids to up the munchie quotient. I applaud you for giving up wine. If I really wanted to make a sacrifice this Lent I should have given up snacking. Instead I gave up swearing. And that's not going so fucking well, either.Reply -
2 replies, Last reply by Tracey on Wed Mar 14, 2012 at 2:24 am
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Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 2:22 amOh, I am so with you. I bury my head in the sand each year at Lent, so that I won't be reminded that I should be giving up wine, chocolate or both. But I end up just feeling guilty that I didn't even try, which leads me to consume more wine & chocolate. Kudos to you for taking a stab at it.Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 2:13 amWOW! That's exactly how I feel. If your name was Amy, I would copy and paste that to my own blog. But seriously, it's a vicious cycle, eat...get fatter, get sadder. I need to do something about it.Reply -
Report Wed Mar 14, 2012 - 12:59 amI can relate to all of what you wrote with the exception of abstaining because it is Lent. Since menopause I no longer have the mood swings that my cycle so graciously provided. I go in spurts with the alcohol. There are times when I am a daily drinker and really seem to NEED it and other times when I don't miss it at all. Wishing you lots of success in all of your life. You truly bring joy to mine every time I read your posts.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Mar 14, 2012 at 1:41 am
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 11:53 pmGet out of my head...you're reading my mind. In fact I was just having this exact muffin-top, winey, depression convo with my doc this morning. Such a self-defeating cycle...so frustrating. Thank you for this...just love you.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Mar 14, 2012 at 1:37 am
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 11:50 pmYour writing has such a beautiful authenticity, Iris! Thank you for putting this into words. You are not alone. I have found myself on the Unhealthy-Choices-Merry-Go-Round all too often over the last 8 years. Along with the things you mention, I also struggle with insomnia, which makes my choices even worse regarding wine, caffeine and exercise. I go through my good phases...this time last year I was in the best shape of my life. But last night I got winded just kicking a soccer ball around with my first grader. On the horse, off the horse, on the horse, off the horse. I think it's something we all struggle with at this stage of life. Keep on keepin' on, girl! And when you want to reach for that glass of wine between now and the end of Lent....just know that someone in Texas loves you!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 11:53 pm
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 10:35 pmMy muffiin top has a muffin top!! I can totally relate to what you wrote... I'm thinking you were writing about me! Kinda scary to see it written down. But a little relieved to know I'm not alone in this. I'm in such a rut and don't know how to get out of it. But I know something needs to be done. The lady at the bank yesterday asked me if I was pregnant!! Wtf??! I was horrified, but yup I do look pregnant!!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 10:52 pm
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 10:26 pm
Such a struggle indeed. Positive change does make you feel absolute crap, does it not? Go for a run or to the gym and you realize how out of shape you are. Give up booze only to find out you really miss it (God knows what that means). Give into it all and people start telling you "fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life." But maybe, just maybe it isn't such a bad way to go through life after all. Maybe Dean Wormer was just plain wrong.Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 10:47 pm
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 8:35 pm
Take away my vodka and I'm a raving maniac!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 9:17 pm
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 7:03 pm
Me too! 40 days sans wine!! Good luck - I did 25 days recently and by day 11 was pacing the house screaming how do people do this - how do people exist like this every day. I look forward to hearing you track through it!Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 7:32 pm
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 3:31 pmI am awake at 5:30 a.m. for the very same reason. I over ate yesterday and am having a horrible time sleeping because of it...plus I know I didn't even bother to take a walk yesterday....and ended up in my jammies watching The Bachelor (ugh) and falling asleep by 9. I feel like I'm in a downward spiral laden with donuts, crappy television and flannel. Help?Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 7:12 pm
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Report Tue Mar 13, 2012 - 4:40 pmPlease tell me you are compensating for lack of wine by drinking beer - or at least Gin. If all else fails you can get through 8 packets of wine gums a day without breeching your Lent contract - i think. I'm totally with you on this. when I'm down i eat crap just to punish myself - i do it knowing that it will make me feel worse - not sure what the technical term for that is but it's a deff catch 22Reply -
1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Mar 13, 2012 at 7:03 pm










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