Jun 26

Guerilla parenting

Comments (101) by The Bearded Iris June 26, 2012 - 6:02 AM

Oh my God, my nine-year-old daughter wants a skateboard.  

She may as well have asked me for a "Do It Yourself Craniotomy Kit."   

I know, I'm the meanest mom ever.

But skateboards are so dangerous! And hospital visits are so damn expensive! And what about the kinds of boys who hang out at the skateboard parks? I know, I know, it's wrong to judge like that. But I only know one guy who was into skateboarding when he was younger and he's in jail now. I have no idea if those two things are actually related, but to me, in my mama-bear head, they totally are.

This is a conundrum for me...a parenting pickle if you will.

You see, this child, the fruit of my womb, the one I call my "Mini-Me," absolutely relishes doing precisely what I tell her she should not do. It appears to be her raison d'être.

The other day we were at a very fancy mall to see a movie together and she asked for some change to toss into the "wishing well" (it was a fountain).

I told her, "No. We don't throw our money away like that. This place gets enough of our money when we buy the overpriced stuff they trick us into believing we so desperately need."

She looked at me with such disgust and anger it made me flinch.

But I was firm in my resolve. "Every penny counts!" It's not like we were at the Fontana di Trevi in Rome. It was just a suburban Georgia mall for God's sake.

A week later, we were back at that same mall and unbeknownst to me, she came prepared with some change from her own piggy bank. As we were walking past the fountain, she reached her hand into her pocket and tossed a few coins into the water while looking right at me.

I was stunned. That little bitch! (I thought to myself.)

I just ignored her. What else could I do? She knew I didn't approve and she found a loophole...a spiteful, IN-YOUR-FACE-MOM loophole.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, I'm certain of it. And the issues are only going to increase in magnitude and consequence as she gets older.

Today it's coins in a fountain, tomorrow it will be boyfriends and facial piercings.

She's been talking lately about wanting to be an auto mechanic when she grows up.

Her father and I imagine a different career path for her for a variety of reasons, but I can tell you right now that I will not be the one to tell her so.

Maybe buying her that skateboard isn't such a bad idea after all. In fact, maybe if I am the one who buys it, she won't be so interested in it anymore. Maybe I should take up skateboarding myself to make it extra unappealing to her.

On that note, who wants to come with me for a skateboard, some facial piercings, and an auto mechanic uniform?

by The Bearded Iris June 26, 2012 - 6:02 AM

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  • Report Wed Oct 10, 2012 - 10:48 pm
    by  Sandy
    Let this be a wake up call. If you had just given in with the stupid penny for the fountain... You are not wrong that you have a world of rebellion coming your way. The good news is you have the upper hand, because in her youthful arrogance, she can not conceive that you've Been There and Done That. As Dolly Parton once said, God gives us daughters so our mothers can say, "I told you so."
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  • Report Mon Jul 2, 2012 - 1:27 pm
    by  Paula
    You gotta love the mini-mes. Just this morning I engaged in a heated 'debate' with the 7yo over why she had to wear her summer uniform to school IN THE SUMMER!!! After we'd 'agreed' that she completely changed her outfit, we set out off to school - me in my sandals and white shirt not noticing the torrential rain about to come in. And yes, someone did make a 'wet t-shirt competition' remark to me in the playground. (Hurray! I'm not dead yet) So yes she'll be joining yours in the queue for tattoos and piercings but credit where credit's due - these are the smart cookies of the future...
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:21 pm
    by  Ray Bilodeau
    Bearded Iris, Power struggles seldom end up with both parties feeling like winners. I like your idea of "guerilla parenting". If she's clever enough to bring her own change to toss into a fountain, ask her about her wish. Then, when you're springing for popcorn or ice cream, ask if she has any change because you might be a little short and only able to buy your own. (You can always "find" enough money at the end of that awkward moment). If she wants a skateboard, there's a goal for her to save that money - and I would totally recommend you getting one too. Instead of a movie afternoon, you can head down to the skate park and try to "pop an ollie". As she gets older, more and more time will be spent with peers vs. her parents, so it certainly doesn't hurt to share those activities now. You can casually observe her performance and safety, see the people with whom she's interacting, and either reinforce the need for safety (should you not do well) or become the "cool" mom (should you excel). I've previously mentioned how around here it's myself and my two boys. Well, one day they started asking questions about the makeup commercials we've seen on television. Long story made short, I have some lovely blue glitter toe nail polish that I'm sporting. The point is, show (and if possible, share) an interest in what catches her fancy now. I think it'll only pay off well in the end.
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  • 4 replies, Last reply by Ashli on Sun Jul 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:07 pm
    @Ray Bilodeau: Thanks Ray. Great insight about power struggles. Believe me, I WILL be going with her to the skate park. I don't know what "popping an ollie" means but I will probably be popping a spider vein or two. Does that count?
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:14 pm
    @The Bearded Iris: I had to wiki skateboarding terms to find something that sounded authentic (if I'm being totally honest, I just looked up what spider veins were too). Props to you for attempting to share in your children's interests (even if there might be ulterior motives underneath).
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:10 am
    @Cartographer: Why thank you! I'm also learning about leopard geckos (because we just adopted one), which is not really the kind of thing I ever would have done were it not for my kids. And sorry about the spider vein thing. Juicy.
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  • Report Sun Jul 1, 2012 - 12:51 pm
    by  Ashli
    @The Bearded Iris: Geckos are awesome! They eat mosquitos. Anything that eats mosquitos is welcome in my home anytime.
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  • Report Sun Jul 1, 2012 - 8:23 am
    by  Vanessa
    You did a good thing about not saying anything about the fountian, pick your battles wisely sista!
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  • Report Sat Jun 30, 2012 - 8:39 pm
    by  Candy V
    You know who's making BANK? The malls with those stupid fountains/wishing wells.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:50 pm
    by  JohnoMori
    My father was not much of a reverse psychology type. If we were in the same situation it would have went something like this. He would have grabbed my hand as I was rearing back to throw the coins into the fountain and said "Son, if you throw that money in the fountain, will break off both of your arms and beat you with them. I will then go home, smash your piggy bank to smithereens and spend your money on beer and cigarettes for me." God, I miss that guy.
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  • 4 replies, Last reply by Liz Dawes on Fri Jun 29, 2012 at 2:43 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:55 pm
    @JohnoMori: OMG, are you my brother? If I had noticed my daughter rearing back to throw those coins, I probably would have stopped her. But my cat like reflexes aren't what they used to be.
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  • Report Thu Jun 28, 2012 - 1:05 pm
    by  Liz Dawes
    @JohnoMori: Yeah? You think that's bad? When I was a kid we didn't even have any money and I had to wash in the local fountains and when we got home at night our father would beat us to death with the dog. EVERY night. Your daughter needs some tough love Iris Beard. Send her over to me. *Digs up mangled dog corpse*
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  • Report Fri Jun 29, 2012 - 4:43 am
    by  JohnoMori
    @Liz Dawes: OK Liz, don't make me get into the story that included my two oldest brothers, a desk chair, a hand carved walking stick, the police and my father in the emergency room. Don't make me go there Liz. Your dog corpse ain't got nothing on that. Oh, and BTW, my father was an auto mechanic (when he wasn't being a fireman, roofer, hvac repairman, etc.) so I too am unsubscribing from this blog. Oh, wait, that doesn't make any sense...
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  • Report Fri Jun 29, 2012 - 2:43 pm
    by  Liz Dawes
    @JohnoMori: A FIREMAN? I take it all back. He was the best. *Drools unattractively*
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  • Report Thu Jun 28, 2012 - 5:51 am
    I think you're underestimating how awesome it would be to have an auto mechanic in the family. For one thing, think about how much your spend at the mechanic, and for one even more thing, think about how you always feel like they're gouging you. This way? Even if she does gouge you, it's still family. Facial piercings? I'm down with a nosering. Otherwise, NO!
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by Missy on Thu Jun 28, 2012 at 8:27 am
  • Report Thu Jun 28, 2012 - 8:27 am
    by  Missy
    @The Suniverse: Yes ma'am. I'm with you! Having an auto mechanic in the family would awesome!
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  • Report Thu Jun 28, 2012 - 7:26 am
    by  Karen
    I don't really care about what my children want to be........I just want them to have medical benefits !
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 1:13 pm
    I think that throwing coins in water is fun too - couldn't she just throw a couple of cents. Sometimes when you give with abundance it comes back with abundance. I am not sure what the skateboard solution is - especially with the healthcare - maybe say yes if you do gymnastics so that you have good balance. Does this mean she doesn't get to choose her own career? I was such a free spirit and I would be so stifled if I was told what to do with my life. I think this poses an interesting question about parental expectations. I have no career expectations for my children other than I would like them to eventually become financially independent. I think this is really interesting post because I want my children to do as they are told so that they are safe and that I am not their servant. I think based on your daughters resourcefulness she will reach adulthood and go out get a job, become financially independent and then do whatever she wants because she can and you have no control. I know this because I am your daughter now as an adult.
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  • 11 replies, Last reply by Gigi_E on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 8:36 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:48 pm
    @Clare Macnaughton: ::reaches for whiskey bottle:: To each her own. Personally, I'd rather spend that money on food to take to the local Food Pantry. We do give with abundance...just not into mall fountains.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 12:34 am
    by  Kristy
    @The Bearded Iris: First off ... LOVE your post! I totally get it!! Being the mom of 3 girls (1 of whom has a rip-stick and used to dig in the water meter gutter thing for frogs!) I relate on ALL levels ;) In response to the commenter up there^^ Turn your comment section back off. To heck with "community"... hahahahahaha.... or at least moderate. LOVE YOU BIG BIG MY SWEET, LOVELY, HUMORISTIC, UBER KIND, WONDERFUL FRIEND!!!!! xo
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 2:43 am
    @Kristy: Allright love, calm down - we have all had a coffee. We are entitled to our opinions. I love Iris too. She rocks.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:21 pm
    @Clare Macnaughton: Hey now, WHAT'S WRONG WITH COFFEE FOR FUCK'S SAKE? ;) Kristy is my friend. She's just giving me a big old virtual bear hug since so many of these commenters seem to think this satirical little snapshot of one tiny element of my relationship with my daughter is an open invitation to critique my parenting skills as a whole. Awesome.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 2:42 am
    @The Bearded Iris: We don't go out to places where throwing money is an option - although we did a couple of years ago visit Mother Shipton's wishing well and I drop 10p in and make a wish. Also see my comment to Gigi about random currency lying around. I have some weird currencies lying around that are worthless I could send you some for her to chuck if you like. We don't have malls - I hate shopping - I food shop twice a month without my kids. I think being a car mechanic is really useful - in fact any engineering is useful especially when your car breaks down or understanding anything mechanised. I don't have to deal with these issues yet so it's not fair to comment. I wish I did skateboarding younger as I would be a better windsurfer, surfer and wakeboarder but then we have the NHS so we don't pay yet for injuries. I can see how it would piss me off if I did have to.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 2:45 am
    @The Bearded Iris: PS: How much do you have to give? Would 5 cents suffice? Or is the required donation over a dollar?
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:22 pm
    @Clare Macnaughton: EVERY. PENNY. COUNTS.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 12:37 am
    by  Gigi_E
    @Clare Macnaughton: Throwing money away CAN be fun. But it's ill advised. Don't you know we're in recession Clare!
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 2:33 am
    @Gigi_E: I give my kids euros - they are worth very little;) Or sometimes Iraqie money leftover from deployments. We have all sorts of funny currency coins lying around that can't be spent - I have no use for a Danish krone. Although also I don't take my kids to the mall so they have no opportunity to spend money.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:23 pm
    @Gigi_E: I once bought a case of Fat Burning Soap from QVC. It didn't work. It burned, literally and figuratively. But I learned my lesson.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 8:36 pm
    by  Gigi_E
    @The Bearded Iris: I sort of want to know whether it was for all over or was targeted. But I fear your answer. So, I'm just going to smile and walk on with this one. *smiles, walks on thus informed.....*
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 8:53 pm
    by  Ellie
    FYI there is nothing wrong with being an auto mechanic ... My husband went to college, got his degree in automotive is currently working on his masters and is gainfully employed (and makes great money, might I add)! So, thanks to your offensive article today, I will be unsubscribing from your blog. Your loss.
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  • 11 replies, Last reply by HouseTalkN on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 8:12 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:02 pm
    by  Melissa
    @Ellie: Well that's pretty extreme. Way to open people's eyes to a new point of view in a mature manner. (Oh wait, you didn't.)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:10 pm
    by  Kristen
    @Ellie: I don't think she is knocking car mechanics. My husband is a tradesman also and I wasn't offended. I think it was just meant as a funny comment - when you think of a 9-year-old girl, you don't picture a car mechanic right away. Not to mention those kinds of jobs can be dangerous - my husband has never been hurt but lots of people in his line of work have lost fingers and arms. What mother wouldn't want her child to be safe at all times?
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:01 pm
    @Kristen: Thanks Kristen. You're 100% right on what I was trying to convey.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:11 pm
    by  Nancy
    @Ellie: I'm sure they'll all be crying in their wine because you unsubscribed. Toughen up, for goodness sake.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:27 pm
    @Nancy: I'm sorry, what did you say Nancy? I was crying so hard into my wine that I couldn't read the words in your comment. ;)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:22 pm
    @Ellie: Wow Ellie. Harsh. Not only did you totally miss my point, but you are putting words in my mouth. I never said there is anything wrong with being an auto mechanic. It's just not the career path I am envisioning for my 9 year old daughter. Maybe your husband can repair your faulty reading comprehension skills or rebuild the transmission on your hypersensitivity gauge. Yowza.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:47 pm
    @Ellie: Her loss? Did you really just type that??? I'm pretty sure I speak for Leslie when I say that I doubt her blog will suffer horribly from your absence, and also don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. It was satire for God's sake. Yeesh.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 8:12 pm
    @Kristin @ What She Said: When I was 9, I wanted to be a truck driver. Then, I found out that the cab wasn't actually a big playhouse for me and my friends and ditched that career path. In no way was that an assault on truck drivers- it just didn't seem like any fun.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 12:42 am
    by  Gigi_E
    @Ellie: Hi Ellie, I don't think the writer thought there was anything wrong with being a mechanic - more that is just not what she and her husband had envisaged for their daughter for 'a variety of reasons'. I don't think anywhere it said - 'because we think it's a sucky job'. Now if she had said it was because she was mainly hoping her daughter would grow up to be a Kardashian. Then I might be thinking along the same lines as you. Then again, she does have a fairly peachy Arse* That's the Kardashian, not the writer. Then again... *That's Ass in American I believe.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:06 am
    @Gigi_E: Whoa now, I take offense at anything that even remotely disparages a fine occupation like Kardashianry. I would LOVE for any of my children to find a way to make such bank for such little effort.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:30 am
    by  Gigi_E
    @The Bearded Iris: Kardashianry - like haberdashery? OMG so much more fun with ribbons :)
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 8:06 pm
    As the mother of a 16 year old girl that I sometimes think I'd like to give her some facial piercings myself (with a pitchfork) I can attest that it only gets worse. I totally think you're on to something though with taking up skateboarding yourself. Buy matching boards for both of you and tell her you decided it would be something fun for the two of you to do together. I have a feeling it will be a short lived hobby (if lived at all). Might even consider some cool skater rags to don while you offer to take her to the skate park! Oh yeah!
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 7:59 pm
    by  Kris
    Oh Leslie! Baton down the Hatches and standby to standby.. Sounds like Mini-Me is just getting started! Lol nothIng wrong with being a mechanic or riding a skateboard(I fixed helicopters for the Navy before I became a photographer.. And dabbled on a skateboard until I fell off one,preggars with Booger(don't say it cause I was actually sitting on my butt when it happened lol)). Guerilla Parenting is right! Thing 1 seems to think that if he tells grandma I took his "life" ( ipod, Xbox, computer) away, and am forcing him to come out of his room for family time. Oh life is so horrible. He found out that the poor pitiful Thing 1 card does not work. Not only did grandma tell me what what said, she also told him he should have picked up his grades and the only person he can blame is himself. He has since apologized. All 3 Things have skateboards and pads and I have to trust them. But they also know that when mom says its a no hospital day... Moms not kidding.(only 2 broke bones so far and it had nothing to do with a skateboard) love the blog! ~kris
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:06 pm
    I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine. Your skateboarding is my son's trampoline. Let's take them down. My son has been forbidden to jump on a friends trampoline yet there he was jumping joyfully, tempting fate and risking his freaking life! You can imagine his shock when he saw that Mommy had arrived early.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:33 am
    by  sasha
    If you can skateboard as well as you dance? Then Hell to the yah, you TOTALLY should take up skateboarding. It could be your bonding time!
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 6:02 pm
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:02 pm
    @sasha: *SNORT* Ok, you've sold me. The next time you see me I might be in a full-body cast, but dammit, at least it will be good blog fodder.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:24 pm
    by  Mary
    The money in the fountain thing is kind of sweet because she probably has some belief that if she wishes hard enough with enough change you'll get her that skateboard! But it is also true that when you join them in their pleasures they immediately want nothing to do with it. I have a friend whose daughter wanted to do pole vaulting. The mother freaked and convinced the girl to take up tennis. Which she did and became a star on the tennis team at college after only taking it up in high school. Go figure and good luck!
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  • 10 replies, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:05 pm
    @Mary: Oh, I'm definitely going to buy her that skateboard. We're going to learn how to do it together! ;) After we take some auto mechanics classes together, that is.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:24 pm
    by  Mary
    @The Bearded Iris: I was secretly hoping you'd buy her the skateboard. Kind of love the idea of the two of you learning it together. Take some video and show us!! By the way, my major in college was dance - SO PRACTICAL! I sometimes wish I had studied auto mechanics and/or plumbing. I'm not kidding.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:38 pm
    @Mary: Hey, it's no joke to want to be able to do your own repairs! I hear ya! Wow, a dance major?! My daughter loves dance. She has taken jazz, tap, and ballet. That's one of the reasons we don't see her seriously wanting to become an auto mechanic someday.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:56 pm
    by  Mary
    @The Bearded Iris: I no longer dance as I used to but I must say I will always look back at that time as the one of the most amazing experiences in my life. Something that has informed everything else I've done - in a good way. So I hope your daughter keeps dancing! Are you watching SYTYCD?
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:53 pm
    @Mary: No, but I watch Smash! and Dancing with the Leftovers, I mean, STARS.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 12:49 am
    by  Mary
    @The Bearded Iris: Love that. I have been known to watch "America's Next Top Moron - I mean Model."
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:04 am
    by  lhewitt
    @The Bearded Iris: Max's ass. Damn.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:28 am
    @lhewitt: I know, right?! Max's everything. Damn.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:44 am
    by  Marsha
    @The Bearded Iris: Wait. Your daughter is in dance and you don't watch "Dance Moms?" Just start watching that and you will have plenty to write about! Those "Dance Moms" are bat shit crazy! (Yes, I know it is a "reality" show, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if that is mostly what they are like!)
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 6:01 pm
    @Marsha: Haha! I did watch Dance Moms once but that dance school director scared the shit out of me. Who yells at people like that?! That show takes place in my hometown. Those moms ARE "bat shit crazy" aren't they?! Holy shit.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 2:38 am
    by  Jinx
    You know I love you, and I think you are a great mom obviously want the best for your mini-me. So I offer to you this: 1. Have her pay for half the board, out of her own money. If she really wants one, she'll be happy to do it. Insist on gear, all the cool kids wear it now anyway. 2. Auto Mechanic: Right ON!!!! Do you have any idea what they make $$$ wise? Think about how much it costs to get your buggy fixed! Even if she doesn't decide to do that as a career, let her explore it through classes or books or a mentor. Being mechanically inclined is great…and could spark an interest in oh, say, Mechanical Enginieering (not too shabby). Those Click and Clack guys on NPR (whom I LOVE!) are graduates of MIT for cryin' out loud! 3. She's young. She's testing you. It happens. Roll with it. smooches from one awesome mom to another.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 5:59 pm
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 5:59 pm
    @Jinx: Thanks, fellow awesome mom, Jinx! Funny you should mention, but Mechanical Engineer is on the list of many mechanically inclined careers we think she'd be great at. I too am very mechanically inclined and do a lot of our own home repairs so I have no issue with her doing that. And yes, if we do end up getting a skateboard for her, she already knows that she will have to pay for at least half of it and that throwing her money away in a fountain isn't how she'll get there. LOVE Click and Clack! Smooches to you.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 5:09 am
    by  Kim P
    Go to the mall, let her toss her money into the fountain, then tell her she can have a skate board when she has enough money to buy all the required safety gear and the board she wants. The trick is to make sure she has already thrown all her money into the fountain first. By the time she saves up enough (unless she has a great paying job), she might be over the infatuation with skateboarding. If she still wants to give it a try after she has the money, then tell her you want one too and you'll make it a mother/daughter fun day out. Hopefully you have insurance.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 5:51 pm
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 5:51 pm
    @Kim P: Could you please design a "What would Kim do" app? I like your strategic mind.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 8:06 am
    by  Emily
    To be fair, auto mechanics make some pretty sweet bank. AND you know you'd never have to worry about her being stranded by the side of the road, having to depend on the help of skeevy strangers. She'd just have fugly fingernails.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 5:50 pm
    @Emily: Haha! Excellent point about never being stranded. I can get down with that. She already has pretty fugly fingernails from catching frogs and minnows, so that's not a big whoop. I didn't realize that mechanics make sweet bank though! Her job satisfaction and financial independence are my primary concern.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 10:03 am
    by  Michele
    My youngest is going to be a roller derby queen, I already know it. Child is 4 and she is already hard core. I figure with her personality, it's that or prison. So I'm buying her some skates and working on her derby name. I'd like her to be financially independent from her mad derby skillz by the time she's 16 so I can move to an old folks home in Florida ... alone. ;) My 8-yo has had her tween moments as well, so I know I'm in for a rough haul in the coming 10-15 years.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 5:47 pm
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 5:47 pm
    @Michele: Damn, your little Derby queen sounds like a fierce bad ass. Good on ya, Mom!
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:59 am
    by  michelle
    Choose your battles wisely. Think before you say 'no'. Is a couple pennies in a fountain worth causing your daughter to resent you? Make a rule that she must wear safety gear on the skateboard. Use these times as teaching moments not as a time to battle with your 10 yr old....it only gets worse as they get older if they don't respect and understand your reasoning behind the rules.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:17 pm
    by  Alexis
    Nice! Why do you give her money? Is it to let her practice making choices about her money? OK so her choice is to toss it into the fountain. Personally I would prefer that over buying those fist-sized gumballs that I'm convinced are going to choke my children and yet I can't say no because it's THEIR money. Ugh. My 5 YO spent his money on these crap plastic devil pitchforks which are 4 feet long and primarily used to stab his younger brother. I. HATE. THEM. But it's his money so not much for it other than to repeat the rules - "If you stab me or your brother with that pitchfork I will throw it away." And then secretly hope he tabs me with it so I can throw it away ;)
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  • 4 replies, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 1:28 am
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 9:28 pm
    by  Melissa
    @Alexis: Ha! Not in my house. I told mine that even though they have "their own" money, I get veto power on any purchasing decisions because, being under the age of 18, they cannot legally own any property. :P
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 12:39 am
    by  Kristy
    @Melissa: hahaha!! I am SOOOO using that line Melissa!!!
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:28 am
    @Melissa: VETO POWER! Whoop whoop!
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:04 pm
    @Alexis: Good point. The first time, she didn't have her money with her, and she asked me for some. I said no and explained why. The second time she brought her own and did what she wanted, but the way she looked at me while she did it indicated that she was enjoying the sass element of it. But yeah, I agree - kids do need to make choices about their money and learn from their mistakes. It was just a few coins, but the bigger picture is that she likes to defy me, for fun it seems at times! Good luck with those pitchforks...if I were you I might have to trip on one and be like "Oh OW! I tripped! It stabbed me! Goodbye pitchfork!" Hahahaha.
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  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:09 am
    She's only nine! Just wait.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:50 pm
    Oh my God, I have just seen my future flash before my eyes. Hold me.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Wed Jun 27, 2012 at 1:08 am
  • Report Wed Jun 27, 2012 - 1:08 am
    @Kristin @ What She Said: Holding you. We'll muddle through together, love.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:09 pm
    You are being challenged. I would worry about the big things and the little things will take care of themselves. I have a nine year old boy & am right there with you. When it matters I will challenge him and win, other times I cut him some slack and let him think he's getting it his way, which of course he isn't (he just thinks that).
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 11:52 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:52 pm
    @citygirlnomore: Don't worry - I let her choose way more important things like what color undies to wear and whether or not she practices piano NOW or later.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:37 pm
    by  Glenda
    People are always going to be offended about something...don't let it put a damper on your funny or your writing. I don't always agree with everything, but I always laugh... then there are those moments I go...OH EM GEE!! How is SHE in MY head?? (THAT LITTLE BITCH!)
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 11:50 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:50 pm
    @Glenda: MUAH! Thanks Doll. You know I live for those OH EM GEE moments! (love you, bitch)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 8:30 pm
    by  amy
    I am willing to bet you are butting heads with her over many, many little things throughout the day as well. Find things to say yes to. Explain to her the reason why you feel it would be unsafe for her to have a skateboard, and have her counter them. Why can't you go with her to the skate park? Throwing a couple of pennies into a mall fountain isn't going to break you, yet you seem to want to wield the power to say NO! And for whatever reason you're against her becoming a mechanic, remember she's living HER life, not a reenactment of yours, or some wild variation of what you wish you had done. I'd be really interested to know why you are against her becoming a tradesperson. She will probably change her mind in a few years anyways. My daughter wanted to be a biologist. Now she's not sure. She still wants a skateboard and I'm fine with that if she wears a helmet. She went through a phase with 'boys' and 'dating' but we nipped that in the bud and explained why we felt the way we did. I have body piercings and tattoos, and we discussed that as well (ie. that I didn't get any until I was of legal age and paid for them myself, and they hurt). By trying to control everything, you're actually giving her power to defy you, imho.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 11:46 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:46 pm
    @amy: A biologist?! Oh please God, noooooooooo. Not that! Of all the crummy career paths. I'm going to pray for you. (Bless your heart.)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:52 pm
    HI Leslie, OMG! I have that daughter! She just turned 16! She spent 3 years away at ballet school, and came back as a skater boy! Well, sort of... She's always been edgy, but has spent being 15 as follows: sported 17, and counting, hair colours / styles, working at a skateboard store, wearing ripped jeans and snap-backs, bought her own skateboard (now that she knows how to assemble and re-skin them, and she got a discount), draws tattoos on herself, pierced her own extra holes in her ears, started stretching her ears, got her nose and naval pierced, plays piano and guitar and listens to extremely offensive music. However, she is lovely, funny, loving, and is expressing herself and getting it out of her system. She still talks about the 'tats' she intends to get and possible piercings, though she knows we are at the limit of what we can look at while she lives with us. So, once she moves out and pays her own way, she can do what she wants. She's also taken out her ear stretchers (whew...). Let them go through it, I say. Impose rules and logical consequences. Recently, my daughter asked "Why am I you?". She can see that we are a lot alike. I did a lot of crazy stuff, too, and it's a miracle I'm still alive. I am trying not to be a helicopter parent anymore and not to freak out. So far it's worked. She talks to me a lot and she trusts me. Beyond keeping kids safe and trying to raise polite, interesting citizens, I think our job is just about done by this age. Lots of love, hugs, being present, and listening is probably the best we can do, and what they really want. Just a note on 'wishing coins': We Canadians throw money in any standing water. It's completely normal for us. We are told the money goes to charity, so it doesn't feel so wasteful. It's a small thing that makes kids happy. That's not so bad, is it?
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 11:24 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:24 pm
    @LucyAbroad: Hey Lucy! I am so fine with her being a fierce independent young lady - if you've ever read any of my other stuff, you probably know I'm the opposite of a helicopter mom. I was just trying to teach her the value of money with that fountain thing. If I thought that money went to charity, it would have been a totally different situation. We give money and time to charity all the time as a family. Now as for the piercings/tattoo thing...I just don't want my kids to make permanent style choices today that they may regret later in life. That happened to me! I have several tattoos from my early 20s that I do not care for now in my 40s. I've even tried having one removed, to no avail. Hopefully my kids will experiment with hair color and funky cuts that they can change when they change their minds later!
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:55 pm
    by  lhewitt
    Hey Iris, Like mother like daughter?
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 11:19 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 11:19 pm
    @lhewitt: YOU KNOW IT, Lisa! We don't call her "Mini-Me" for nothing.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 7:43 pm
    by  Melissa
    Just tell yourself that she's showing personality traits that would make her well-suited to a career as a high-powered attorney some day! ^_^
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  • 3 replies, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:58 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:32 pm
    @Melissa: Oh LORD nooooooooooooo! Anything but that. ;) Actually, I was kind of hoping she'd want to be a housepainter or a carpenter because I am really tired of paying for that shit.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:45 pm
    by  Melissa
    @The Bearded Iris: Your feelings about your daughter's desire to become an auto mechanic remind me of the time my son said he wanted to be a garbage man or a semi-truck driver someday (he just wanted the job that had the biggest truck involved). I was like, "Well, let's just get a plan A, B and C in place first. If you end up becoming a truck driver, mommy will still love you - but let's save that for plan D." But a mechanic... I am really tired of paying for THAT shit, so I think if one of my children were interested in learning the trade, I'd be all like "Sure, let me pay your tuition in exchange for a promise that you'll always fix mommy's car for free!!!" :D
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:58 pm
    @Melissa: Brilliant! Yes, I totally see your reasoning. I'm not here today to say one career is better than another. Ultimately, as a mom, I want each of my kids to pick careers they will love and that will sustain them and fulfill them. If she is deadest on being an auto mechanic when she gets older, we will totally support her. And yes, she better fix my car for free. :)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 6:41 pm
    by  Kristen
    If it makes you feel any better, I was exactly like this from ages 8 - 12. Then I got over it. My teenage years were a breeze for my parents. And I have never been in prison, except to volunteer there with my church youth group. My sister, on the other hand, was the Golden Child until about 15 hit. The years that followed are what I like to call The Perfect Storm. So maybe this is Mini-Me's way of getting it out of her system early! :)
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  • 3 replies, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:47 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:35 pm
    @Kristen: From your keyboard to God's eyes. Please, let that be the way this pans out. On the other hand, my oldest has been a breeze so far, so I hope he doesn't go all batshit crazy at 15. YIKES!
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:39 pm
    by  Kristen
    @The Bearded Iris: I also have a brother and he didn't hit any rough years. Maybe it's just girls? My brother does have a few tattoos, though. And he's bald. I sincerely hope your daughter does not go bald. :)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:47 pm
    @Kristen: Well she might if she takes after her father! :)
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 7:40 pm
    by  Ann
    I swear my 10 year old daughter (who I also call "Mini-Me") and yours are related! I can picture the same fountain scenario without hesitation...and her spiteful look of success at finding the loophole! ...she also wanted a skateboard! So, I told her I wasn't going to buy her something to kill herself with...so she saved her tooth fairy/extortion/blackmail money and bought one herself...and guess what...she wiped out hard, and came in scraped, bloody and bruised! She knew the "I told you so" was coming...so she tried to bandage herself up without me knowing. But, guess what...she doesn't ride it anymore! :) I wish you the best of luck with your girl...Lord knows I need it with mine!
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:34 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:34 pm
    @Ann: Oh - so hard to not say I told you so, isn't it?!!! But yes, I like your approach. Maybe that first wipe out will be all it takes to steer her toward a safer hobby like needlepoint.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 7:40 pm
    by  Arnebya
    Eh. My girls are 11 and 8 and tthe 11 yr old is ruly making me say quite regularly (in my head) "this bitch here." Tell her she can only skateboard on the 5th Tuesday of the month, only up the walkway to your house, and only between 6 and 6:04. A.M.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:33 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:33 pm
    @Arnebya: LOVE IT! And thank God I'm not the only mom calling my kid a bitch in my head.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 8:21 pm
    by  Fiveogrrl
    Ummmmmmmmm. I like Mini Me even more now! Ask her if she can change the oil in my Mom Machine CR-V.
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:29 pm
    @Fiveogrrl: She totally can! Let's trade services. You take her out to the gun range and teach her some moves and she'll give your mombulance a tune up.
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  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 8:43 pm
    by  Ann
    She's 9 huh? My daughter is 17 and wants to leave for college. No. She wants to read "Fifty Shades of Grey". No She wants her belly button pierced after telling me about how her friend had it done but the 'creepy guy' did it wrong and it fell out leaving a weird hole in her belly. No. Seeing the trend here? I'm on new meds so no more vodka for a while. Someone in our house is going to lose an eye at the very least so just wait Leslie, it gets so much more interesting trying to outwit them!
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  • 1 reply, Last reply by The Bearded Iris on Tue Jun 26, 2012 at 10:24 pm
  • Report Tue Jun 26, 2012 - 10:24 pm
    @Ann: Ha! I like your style Ann! And remind me to wear my safety goggles when I come over for non-alcoholic bevs on the veranda.
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